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May 23, 2007 23:01:50 GMT -5
Post by dragonfly on May 23, 2007 23:01:50 GMT -5
I just learned something. I learned that my children won't die if they miss breakfast!!!
I used to have quite the time getting the kids out of bed.. not so much any more... DH and I decided that 20 minutes is good for a 5 , 6 ,10 and 11 year old, to get up, make their bed, get dressed, and do a quick pick up of their rooms. the first day only 1 ate. Now we're up to a steady 3. I have one that is apparently a very slow learner..yep the 10 year old. They then get 20 minutes to eat and 15 minutes for all of them to have their hair, & teeth done, and school books at the table. It's working when I'm consistant, and I'm pretty consistant. They are understanding that if I say it once I mean it.
We are trying hard to get rid of the 'oh my God' phraise.. it's something I have said for, too many years, and the kids have picked it up. My husband is listening for me to say it, and I am listening for the children to say it.. So, can I spank the children for saying it when I occasionally still say it?
So, school is just about done for us up here. AMEN.. it's been a tough school year, and again it's because I wasn't consistant. But instead of thinking what a faillure I am, i am going to focus on how good things were this year and how to make them better for next year. God is so good. He grew as a child into an adult and as a young man into a carpenter. So, I am not a school teacher in two years.. I think next year will be even better!! Amen.. God is so good.. He gets us through it all doesn't He.. the hard mornings as well as the really sweet ones.. I love him so!
Good night all.. I'm off to bed... D'Ann
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May 24, 2007 8:53:19 GMT -5
Post by George on May 24, 2007 8:53:19 GMT -5
Absolutely not!!! My goodness, how can you possibly think of punishing your children for following the example they are receiving? That is hypocritical beyond measure.
(Mat 7:1) Judge not, that ye be not judged.
(Mat 7:2) For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
(Mat 7:3) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
(Mat 7:4) Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
(Mat 7:5) Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
The Lord clearly tells us here that we need to clean up our own lives before we consider attempting to steer someone else in the right direction.
(Num 14:18) The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
Again we see here that the things we do are passed on to our children and even our grandchildren. They learn by example. If a child is raised up in the manner he should go there will not be this problem. It is very similar to watching TV or listening to music and things of that nature. How can we ask our children not to do something that we ourselves do?
In Christ, George
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May 25, 2007 7:23:36 GMT -5
Post by Brother Ben on May 25, 2007 7:23:36 GMT -5
Brother George has stated it very aptly. Children and other subordinates cannot rise above the standard being set by authority. They will almost always do the same or worse! I am woefully aware of that from failures in my parenting. In regards to missing a meal, yes it is true they won't die if they miss one (we could all probably miss some ;D) You do need to be careful because of what people might say or think if it is reported in a negative light. We are not living in the old days when discipline was not looked on with such distain. If someone was really missing the mark, we would often make them miss the main course, and have to opt for the peanut butter flip (pb, no jelly, on bread.) They would still get necessary nutrients, but miss the yummy taters! As far as bad statements, habits, etc., my wife and I have found that the best way to correct that is to address it in a family meeting. We would usually say, "Dad and Mom have (said, did, whatever) this negative thing and we are sorry, it was wrong, please forgive us. We will no longer be saying that in the home." After a week of instruction and grace came, then came the law and correction. The apology and intruction should be well received. Just some thoughts. Ben
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May 25, 2007 14:47:36 GMT -5
Post by George on May 25, 2007 14:47:36 GMT -5
Brother Ben, you have stated something here that is unfortunately not brought into practice often enough in today's households, even Christian households. We should not be above apologizing to our children for our speech or our actions. It is a very important thing to convey to the youngsters that making amends for wrongs done is a thing that is to be practiced and not hidden away in our minds.
Although the parents "run" the household it must be done in a manner that pleases God. When the Bible tells us to confess our faults one to another and pray one for another that we may be healed it does not exclude children. If the example we set for them is wrong in any way I believe it very important to let them know and then apologize for it. To me this amounts to swallowing our pride and doing right in the sight of the Holy Father.
In Christ, George
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May 26, 2007 22:58:54 GMT -5
Post by Tammy on May 26, 2007 22:58:54 GMT -5
D'Ann, God bless you for loving your children enough to teach them and train them. You are doing what you can to instill some character in them... I can't tell you how many times I've wished I had learned punctuality and diligence as a child, instead of having to re-train myself as an adult! In many areas, I have had to start at square one, but I hope to build up my children from a better foundation, so that they will be able to do so much more for the Lord in their lifetimes. It is wise to hear the instruction and advice of others who have "been there, done that." And I must say, having to settle for a pb foldover instead of the ham-n-eggs would be great motivation to be dressed on time, lol! One book that we found to be full of great child-training ideas was "To Train Up A Child", by Michael and Debi Pearl. They also offer a free monthly magazine, "No Greater Joy", that you can sign up for at www.nogreaterjoy.org. I have also learned some valuable info about homeschooling from these resources. Hope these are a blessing to you. Keep loving those kiddos - Your loving and firm guidance will make a difference! In Christ, Tammy
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Jun 12, 2007 22:23:06 GMT -5
Post by dragonfly on Jun 12, 2007 22:23:06 GMT -5
In regards to missing a meal, yes it is true they won't die if they miss one (we could all probably miss some ) You do need to be careful because of what people might say or think if it is reported in a negative light. We are not living in the old days when discipline was not looked on with such distain.
Thank you. I needed to be reminded of this.. And I just pulled out my copy of to TTUAC. It's hard though, I almost don't know where to start.
I did the kitchen set down.. (Actually, it was a we, DH initiated it, and he was wonderful as he spoke to the children.. But it must be said.. if you think of it, pray for me, I need to be more consistant. I am doing alright, but I have so much farther to go..
D'Ann.. Good night all.
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Jun 13, 2007 7:50:46 GMT -5
Post by Brother Ben on Jun 13, 2007 7:50:46 GMT -5
I would like to say now that I have a momment to reflect, Michael Pearl's book, 'To Train Up A Child,' has some helpful hints, but he is a bit off on some of his tactics. He is harse in some of his disciplines and I know the Pearls and their testimony in their community is not good. The Amish all agree that they wish his children were not so wild. I believe the more balanced and better everytime material outside the Bible (and the Bible alone is good,) is the Godly Home Series by Denny Keneston, and his accompanying book, 'Pursuit of Godly Seed.' I know Bro. Denny personally, I have sat in his living room, I also know his well behaved, grown, missionary children, and they are godly. Proofs in the puddin' I would use Michael Pears material with carefulness and discernment. The general information is o.k., but his children didn't turn out well. Here is a link to Denny's site: www.homefirespub.com/
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Jun 13, 2007 16:39:41 GMT -5
Post by Tammy on Jun 13, 2007 16:39:41 GMT -5
Oh yes, I have heard Bro. Kenaston's series on the home! It is wonderful and very convicting, and I have to agree that his approach is more loving than that of Bro. Pearl. I have never met the Pearls, nor the Kenastons, so I rely on your opinion, Bro. Ben, about how their children have turned out! The proof is, indeed, in the pudding ...And besides, Bro. Kenaston's doctrine on the woman's headcovering is correct.
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Jun 14, 2007 7:41:20 GMT -5
Post by Brother Ben on Jun 14, 2007 7:41:20 GMT -5
Sister Tammy, When are ya'll going back? What are some needs we can pray about as you prepare? Let us know.
Bro. Ben
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Jun 18, 2007 23:27:21 GMT -5
Post by Tammy on Jun 18, 2007 23:27:21 GMT -5
Bro. Ben, we were planning to return to Guatemala the first week of November...that is, until we learned that a new little one is on the way, due Nov 10. Wouldn't be a good time for a three/four day road trip through Mexico, eh? So we do indeed need your prayers - for wisdom as to when we should leave. Our last meeting is Oct 14-17. If we keep that scheduled meeting then leave the next week, that will give me about two weeks to get home, unpack our belongings and set up house (maybe having to paint the kitchen), and set things up for a home birth. It has been suggested that we cancel some of those last meetings and go home early. While it would be a relief to be home a couple of weeks sooner, I know my husband feels obligated to fulfill those appointments, and I agree. Another prayer request is about where the Lord would have us begin a work when we return. Two places are on Daniel's heart - La Esperanza, and Salcaja. Neither of these places has a Bible-believing/teaching church, and Salcaja is nearly 100% Catholic and has a history of strong resistance to the gospel. Thank you for your prayers and concern. ...I should have posted this under prayer meeting or missions! Sis.Tammy
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