Post by benshelpmeet on Mar 11, 2009 10:52:28 GMT -5
Well I wasn't exactly sure what to title this, but this sounded about right.
My sweet grandmother 80 years of age, a Southern Baptist, she has been telling me how she listens to Dr David Jeremiah ( I have listened to him and liked him) preach about the end times lately and how we might be at the beginning of the end times, but that we have nothing to worry about because we will all be raptured out before things get bad (pre trib), I said yes, we will be raptured out before Gods wrath is poured out (pre wrath),because we are not appointed to His wrath , but we will have to endure Satan's wrath. Satan knows the time is short and things will get really bad before we are raptured out.
Just think of the persecuted christians in other lands, Asia, the Middle east, Africa, South America, Russia, Romania, and other countries that go through great poverty, abuse, even death for their faith all at the hand of Satan.
The sad thing is when times get really bad, and God does not rapture them out, christians and those that claim to be saved will become very discouraged, dismayed, confused.
dis·may (d¹s-m³“) tr.v. dis·mayed, dis·may·ing, dis·mays.
1. To destroy the courage or resolution of by exciting dread or apprehension.
2. To cause to lose enthusiasm; disillusion.
3. To upset or alarm. --dis·may n. A sudden or complete loss of courage in the face of trouble or danger. --dis·may“ing·ly adv.
Some will turn their back on God, some will be deceived into taking the mark.
The sad thing with my grandmother is not that I think she will turn her back on God, because I know her faith is much stronger than that, I do not think she will take the mark, but oh how scary things will be for her, and many other well meaning faithful christians, because they are taught, assured... and they have put their faith in the fact that we all (the truly saved,... which alot believe those who have received Christ through a prayer even if their life and walk does not reflect Christ or an effort in the right direction will be going to heaven.) will be raptured up before everything gets bad. This is a bad deception and will leave many not knowing what to do or how to cope, because they will be unprepared.
We need to prepare our hearts and minds for the things to come, whether it be poverty, sickness, disaster, persecution, death, whatever it is we need t be prepared spiritually first, then second we can try to prepare physically. If the economy collapses then your money will not be lost if you have purchased goods with it, and you can use what you have purchased with your money to survive from day to day. Even if all your physical efforts are destroyed, then you will still be prepared spiritually in your heart to handle what comes your way, and God is faithful, His grace is sufficient, just ask those who suffer and who have suffered for their faith.
I know many men of God (preachers) mean well, by preaching this (pre trib) rapture teaching, but that's all it is, mans teaching that started in the 1800's...we use to believe it too, until we were challenged to find it in scripture ,(by an Ind Fund Baptist Preacher friend of ours). It's not there.
People use all kinds of scripture to try and support their theory, but thats all it is.
We need to be prepared for the fact that the pre trib rapture just might not happen! It cannot be found in scripture. 
My poor grandmother is so upset about all that is going on in the world right now that she does not even want to talk about it, because its too disturbing. They are robbing my grandmother of the peace she could have in knowing the truth about the future and teaching her how to rest in God, we can fin peace and rest when e are aware of the times and the fact that we serve a mighty God and He walks with us through the valleys of life, no matter what we can put our trust and faith in God.
A mother in travail about to give birth has prepared her body by exercise, proper rest, and nutrition, Vitamins, etc, and she has prepared her mind for the upcoming event of hard labor, and the birth experience, a good mother will prepare herself. And those who prepare themselves, no matter what happens, or how bad it is, they come out on the other side doing just fine, even during their hardship... it is bearable.
So let us be prepared for our changing world and upcoming events.
My sweet grandmother 80 years of age, a Southern Baptist, she has been telling me how she listens to Dr David Jeremiah ( I have listened to him and liked him) preach about the end times lately and how we might be at the beginning of the end times, but that we have nothing to worry about because we will all be raptured out before things get bad (pre trib), I said yes, we will be raptured out before Gods wrath is poured out (pre wrath),because we are not appointed to His wrath , but we will have to endure Satan's wrath. Satan knows the time is short and things will get really bad before we are raptured out.
Just think of the persecuted christians in other lands, Asia, the Middle east, Africa, South America, Russia, Romania, and other countries that go through great poverty, abuse, even death for their faith all at the hand of Satan.
The sad thing is when times get really bad, and God does not rapture them out, christians and those that claim to be saved will become very discouraged, dismayed, confused.
dis·may (d¹s-m³“) tr.v. dis·mayed, dis·may·ing, dis·mays.
1. To destroy the courage or resolution of by exciting dread or apprehension.
2. To cause to lose enthusiasm; disillusion.
3. To upset or alarm. --dis·may n. A sudden or complete loss of courage in the face of trouble or danger. --dis·may“ing·ly adv.
Some will turn their back on God, some will be deceived into taking the mark.
The sad thing with my grandmother is not that I think she will turn her back on God, because I know her faith is much stronger than that, I do not think she will take the mark, but oh how scary things will be for her, and many other well meaning faithful christians, because they are taught, assured... and they have put their faith in the fact that we all (the truly saved,... which alot believe those who have received Christ through a prayer even if their life and walk does not reflect Christ or an effort in the right direction will be going to heaven.) will be raptured up before everything gets bad. This is a bad deception and will leave many not knowing what to do or how to cope, because they will be unprepared.
We need to prepare our hearts and minds for the things to come, whether it be poverty, sickness, disaster, persecution, death, whatever it is we need t be prepared spiritually first, then second we can try to prepare physically. If the economy collapses then your money will not be lost if you have purchased goods with it, and you can use what you have purchased with your money to survive from day to day. Even if all your physical efforts are destroyed, then you will still be prepared spiritually in your heart to handle what comes your way, and God is faithful, His grace is sufficient, just ask those who suffer and who have suffered for their faith.I know many men of God (preachers) mean well, by preaching this (pre trib) rapture teaching, but that's all it is, mans teaching that started in the 1800's...we use to believe it too, until we were challenged to find it in scripture ,(by an Ind Fund Baptist Preacher friend of ours). It's not there.
People use all kinds of scripture to try and support their theory, but thats all it is.We need to be prepared for the fact that the pre trib rapture just might not happen! It cannot be found in scripture.
My poor grandmother is so upset about all that is going on in the world right now that she does not even want to talk about it, because its too disturbing. They are robbing my grandmother of the peace she could have in knowing the truth about the future and teaching her how to rest in God, we can fin peace and rest when e are aware of the times and the fact that we serve a mighty God and He walks with us through the valleys of life, no matter what we can put our trust and faith in God.
A mother in travail about to give birth has prepared her body by exercise, proper rest, and nutrition, Vitamins, etc, and she has prepared her mind for the upcoming event of hard labor, and the birth experience, a good mother will prepare herself. And those who prepare themselves, no matter what happens, or how bad it is, they come out on the other side doing just fine, even during their hardship... it is bearable.
So let us be prepared for our changing world and upcoming events.
