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Post by pamelacassada on Aug 23, 2011 11:12:11 GMT -5
Good Morning Friends, It's been a while since I've posted anything, I check in to read postings, but just don't take many opportunities to comment. I tend to be a "fly on the wall" I guess! Anyway, I do pray for you all, and hope you are well. Today I come with a question and am hoping some of you can give me some clarification on the Messianic Movement. Recently I've had some friends go into this movement & to be quite honest I'm rather shocked and concerned at some of the things they are saying and doing. Is this "over-reaction" on my part or is this a cultish movement. These friends have professed in the past to be Baptist. So I'm curious as to what this group is. Sorry for the curiosity but I live a rather sheltered life in a small "old-fashioned & conservative" Baptist church. Thanks for listening~Blessings All~~Sister Pamela
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Post by Brother Ben on Aug 23, 2011 15:45:03 GMT -5
Sister Pamela, let me start like this:
Joe and Diane, (not real people) go to the Baptist church. They grow tired of the "same old" programs, and become restless. They see others in the Messianic groups and are attracted to the "Jewish" emphasis. Some groups even have member change their name when they join. Joe is now, Mordecai and Diane, why she goes by, Jochebed, (you think I jest, but this really happens.) Diane, I mean Jochebed, now wears this long multicolored head covering, looks like something out of an old movie. They learn Messianic dancing, (this goes on, too.) End of story, for now.
My question is: Why?
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Gal. 3:28
If someone comes genuinely to Christ, they have become a new creature. Sure a Jew, nationally, is still a Jew, an American, is an American, etc., but in Christ, they are a new creation.
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." 2 Cor. 5:17
"For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature." Gal. 6:15
People need to stop hungering after some "thing" or some "experience" and be happy in Christ. This is one problem in the "head covering" movement, (if we must call it that,) because some sister, (and sometimes it's the brother,) sees a modest lady in a covering and BAMM! they are hooked. . . that is until some issue comes along and blows them out of that "movement," and in search of "another."
What can you do, Sister Pamela? You might try to say something, share the scriptures with them and ask, in Christ, why the necessity of a "Messianic" movement. Pray for the Lord to open their eyes and give them peace in "just" Christ.
That's what I think.
Bro. Ben
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Post by pamelacassada on Aug 23, 2011 17:06:40 GMT -5
Thank you Brother Ben for replying. And yes, it's true...my friends have changed their names, announced that they are now Jewish, wear Jewish headdresses, and practice Davidic dancing. I have tried reasoning with them but to no avail, but I continue to keep them in prayer. Thanks for your insight, I was kind of wondering if this was a commonly known movement, as I only heard of it several months ago. Blessings~Sister Pamela
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Post by michelle on Aug 24, 2011 9:04:47 GMT -5
There are also variations amongst the Messianic Movement.
One that comes to mind refer to themselves as being Torah Observant. Basically, they keep the law other than the sacrifices. They keep the dietary laws, the ceremonial laws, the feasts, etc. These may or may not change their covering, and may or may not still attend church on Sunday.
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Post by Sister Penny on Sept 17, 2011 17:36:45 GMT -5
Sister Pamela, I see that several people I know have left well, "Plain Christianity" to follow a more "Orthodox Greek" movement also, I don't understand, their churches are very flashy, golden entry ways, etc. I don't know, I feel fine just here in my own skin finally at the age of 52 and holding :-) I had a man recently ask me at a Veterans Hospital, "So, just what are you a Mormon or something?" now he was battling PTSD, I figured that out before I answered, due to his brash, loudness, a friend of mine battles it, so I can say I have a lot of experience dealing with it. I said softly, "No sir, I am a plain fundamentalist Christian" which simply means I believe in the King James 1611 Holy Bible and I dress as I am convicted by the Scriptures and my husband. He just took it all in and I asked him about his service record and we had a lovely chat, I felt such compassion for him, it was sad being there.... Love in the Lord, Sister Penny..."just a plain ole Christian"
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