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Post by Tammy on Mar 13, 2008 23:56:38 GMT -5
I saw an article the other day about a disturbing study that has come out, which concludes that 1 in 4 teen girls has an STD. I was stunned at the numbers, and even more stunned at the general response to this data: they said part of what is responsible for this statistic is our country's abstinence s-x ed program!! I see young people all the time, engaging in long embraces and other physical contact in public. Nothing wakes them up to the reality of the road their headed down, like handing them a gospel tract and talking about the Lord
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Post by prv31wife on May 16, 2008 9:47:39 GMT -5
That's so sad! These kids don't know what they are doing to themselves.
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Post by kscarle on May 16, 2008 20:34:54 GMT -5
Too many people are yelling safe sex instaed of no sex
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Post by glenda on May 16, 2008 20:39:58 GMT -5
People need to be telling the children that everytime you have sex not only are you putting yourself at risk but you are also giveing a piece of yourself to that person or persons... The only way to protect yourself from that is to have NO Sex until marriage. It just breaks my heart that these young people are making adult descisions when they are able to handle them. These choices not only can mess up there lives but the lives of everyone they come in contact with. We push our children to grow up to act like little adults when they are just not.. They need time to grow and learn without having to make choices like rather to have sex or not. We as parents need to make a stand for our children and let them know that we as parents believe in our hearts that it is wrong to have sex before marriage. god bless glenda
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Post by 7schmicks on May 16, 2008 22:44:44 GMT -5
How is it that they blame the abstinence programs? I have read in the liberal media that they "don't work," but why? It is probably the way they are taught. Whenever you give children any doubts, they grab hold of them as an excuse for doing what they shouldn't. Instead of telling the children straight out that they can and should wait - no excuses, they probably say something like, "It's best that you wait, but some of you may not be able to help it, so, use this protection if you can't..." This leaves the door wide open for promiscuity.
Sister Brenda
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Post by SisterNancy on May 17, 2008 22:10:05 GMT -5
that is because they are saying that oral sex is not sex and things like that. so, lots of kids are having oral sex and getting std's like Herpes and such.
And some schools are just saying you should not have sex but we know you will so....here is protection which we all know is not protection or does not protect against std's.
So sad. I taught all my teens that they may have emotions, desires etc but that they could control them and not give into them and that they could remain pure. WE had a Purity service where they pledged to God to remain pure until marriage and got purity rings. (I know some people would consider that wrong because it's jewlry). some wear them on their fingers and some put them on chains around their necks. they were simple and modest not gaudy etc.
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Post by allenehatherell12 on May 19, 2008 1:52:20 GMT -5
I work in a school and it is shocking to see what young people are exposed to and taught today. I read that a child will spend 65,000 hours in school before they are 18 and mostly (unless homeschooled) with unbeleivers, false converts and ecumenical humanists, rarely now a days will a strong Bible believing Christian cross their path and certainley not in a secular school coz they'd not survive long in there. Especially if they stood for Him and that would be if they were empolyed in the first place. Students are more likely to be ridiculed, my son was. Aged 12 he was asked to stand and justify why he thought the myth of the Red Sea crossing was true, the teacher laughed at him but proceeded the following week to extoll the virtues of Bhudism and give out red threads for all the children to tie on their writs. When my son said no thank you, he was again singled out as being in tolerant and unloving. Closed to ''the bigger picture''. Basically, in this age of new tolerance, anything is ok as long as it is not Jesus. If its your choice to do what you like, who am I to judge you....it has led to some really bad teaching choices...and parenting choices. I have parents say to me that yes, they would rather their 14 year old learnt to drink sensibly with them....than ban it because by the time they get to to 18 they'll just want it so bad so they are being sensible in teaching them ''sensible drining''. The same ideas have now spread to ''sensible sexual behaviour''. Its assumed you'll lose your virginity by 18 so lets teach you how to put on a condom in biology.... There is never a notion that not drinking or not having sex is an option. I realsie I can no longer work in such a secular environment....its impossible for me to be obedient to the Lord and to my boss and guess who come first! so God has taken us away from here and we are returning to our home country. Thanks to God and prayers answered (as DH is atheist) my 12 yr old son begins at a home school style school attached to my new church, 27 pupils and a Christian education through and through. I am SO excited!! Anyway, returning to the thread, we need to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves and work with these young people, where we can while remaining in obedience. Sometimes thrusting tracts in their faces can back fire. Certainley used to really annoy me when I was lost....it smaked of a holier than thou attitude to me back then (not that long ago either! and God provides people saved a long time, saved a short time, so He canl reach out to the lost in the most productive ways) We need to as Christians get involved in their lives, invite them to our churches and our homes. Most of all pray and stand up and live His way in our communities. God Bless, Sister Allene <><
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Post by SisterNancy on May 19, 2008 18:13:27 GMT -5
sister where is your home country? Praise God that you are going home! I am glad your son will be able to be in a christian environment. I had a ministry to teens in an iner-city public school atmospere...some of them became very strong in standing up for their faith while being ridiculed by teachers etc. but some teachers respected them when they saw the change God was performing in their lives. We even eventually were able to have a biblestudy group meet once a week in the school as an after school club. That was nothing short of a miracle praise God. all the teens in our country need prayer. here in the us witchcraft and occult pratices are raging amongst our teens. most parents are totally unaware.
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Post by allenehatherell12 on May 21, 2008 0:07:25 GMT -5
Going home to Scotland! very much looking forwqard to going home and starting our lives there. There will be challenges but thats normal and we have a lovely wee church that has opened its arms to us. <><
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Post by divash on May 21, 2008 11:44:03 GMT -5
I realize that I'm a bit of an outsider here in this matter, but I do believe there is a possible middle ground. Since it is illegal to teach one religious viewpoint as being above/better than others in public schools (note: I did say public schools), I feel that the best thing to do is to teach about the consequences of sex.
1. Only one form of disease control is 100% effective: abstinence. If you engage in sex, therefore, you are putting yourself at risk of contracting a sexually transmitted disease. Some of these can be cured by medicine. Many cannot. You could die.
2. Only one form of birth control is 100% effective: abstinence. If you engage in sex, therefore, you are putting yourself at risk of pregnancy. There are only three choices available to a pregnant person: abortion (God forbid), adoption, and parenthood.
Abortion is medically risky (not to mention the spiritual implications!), and can result in the mother's death, infertility, or other life-changing medical issues for the mother. It also results in the death of a fetus, in a grotesque fashion.
Adoption is a wonderful idea, but the adoption system is imperfect. Not all children are considered "desirable," and a good many will remain within the system for years, never knowing a loving family or getting adequate care. Some will be adopted by people who pass the psychological tests by lying very effectively; these children could be neglected or abused, God forbid.
Parenting is also risky. Especially for young people who don't have the ability to get and keep a job that will pay for maintaining an infant's life and good health. Especially for young people who still think of themselves as kids when it comes time to be responsible for themselves, let alone for other living things. Especially for young people who felt the need to lie to their parents and say "I'm sleeping over at Shelly's tonight" instead of being truthful with where they were going and what they were doing. Especially for young people who weren't mature enough to keep their own physical desires in check.
In short, I think that the most wise thing to teach children at home is the spiritual/moral/religious reasons to avoid premarital sex. But I think the most wise thing to teach children in school is the practical reasons why they aren't ready to deal with any of the consequences of having sex.
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Post by kscarle on May 21, 2008 16:41:28 GMT -5
...I think homeschooling is the best option to this. A friend of mine has her step son over on weekends and the give them extra points now in school for dressing in the attire of the opposite sex. The school system is promoting sodomy in doing so. they don't care about our children very much...I refer to them as governmental indoctrination programs. I do not hink all teachers are bad but its hard to know what they slip in .
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Post by SisterNancy on May 21, 2008 16:46:08 GMT -5
YEP, Christians are not the only people who do not want what the government schools offer!
unfortunately, the schools are not teaching practical reasons why they aren't ready to deal with any of the consequences of having sex.
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Post by allenehatherell12 on May 21, 2008 18:41:15 GMT -5
I agree whol;eheartedly, homeschooling is the way to protect the children. I have written before how I have had my prayers answered on this one and am daily giving thanks that I am getting Will out of mainstream education. Its not just the actual education, its the whole environment, the language the children use, the way they inteact together...there is such cruelty and no one there to guide or tach them. 65,000 hours a child will be in the care of strangers in the school system and usually we have no idea what is being said to them. I had some horrified Indian mothers approach me a few weeks ago, shocked that their daughters had been in a science class yet they had been told about explicit sexual acts...I will not offend to write them here, its not neccessary but I was also shocked!! when I tried to find out how this had happened I was told this often happens, children ask questions, teachers teach....and thats the horror. Teaching what?? Because even so called Christians these days are often so back sliden that one cannot tell them apart from the unsaved, and that is not teaching our children. In fact, religious education is almost non exisistant and only ''tolerated'' if all other religious beliefs are given equal airtime and validity. Its a sad fact that as Christians, we have watched God be taken out of our schools, our communites and our countries and now we are reaping what we have allowed to be sown. Sister Allene <><
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Post by 7schmicks on May 21, 2008 23:02:45 GMT -5
So glad Sister Allene's son is going to what sounds like a great school! I often get discouraged with my homeschooling. I've not been very disciplined, and I know my children's education suffers because of it. But every time I think about what the public schools are teaching our young people, I know that choosing to school them at home was the right choice.
Sister Brenda
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Post by allenehatherell12 on May 22, 2008 5:41:51 GMT -5
I am sure you are doing a much much better job than you think you are...because you are doing it for Him. I admire you so much, all of you homeschooling mums for standing. It was through this board that I was drawn to read about schooling and as I did, the Lord has impressed on me that this is the way I should go. I never thought it would happen...DH is an athiest, it seemed impossible. He was checking out these private (called public in UK) schools, for boys...rugby etc! and I was praying and looking for something very, very different. Then, I told him, or rather I asked if he would consider such a school....and praise the Lord!! not only did he consider it, he visited it and he said Yes!! So I can truly say, all things are indeed possible if you believe (and of course they are in Gods will!!) I am still so excited!! God Bless all you home schooling Mums, here is something I thought you might enjoy, as we all endevour through His Grace, to be Christian parents:
There are but two real Christians in the world
(By John Angell James)
There appears to me to be, at the present moment, a most criminal neglect, on the part of Christian parents, of the pious education of their children.
That Christian who would carry on a system of pious education with success, should enforce it with all the commanding influence of a holy example. Let your children see all the "beauties of holiness" reflected from your character, and the grand outline of godly virtue filled up with all the delicate touches and varied coloring of the Christian graces.
Let your children have this conviction in their hearts, "If there are but two real Christians in the world, my father is one, and my mother is the other."
It is dreadful--but not uncommon for children to employ themselves in contrasting the appearance which their parents make . . . at the Lord's table--and at their own table; in the house of God--and at home!
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