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Post by molly on Jun 25, 2008 20:18:04 GMT -5
I am new here. Right now I am staying with a relative in AZ and wanted to attend a headcovering church here. I found an Apostolic Christian Church but I don't know much about them. Can anyone give me some input on them?
Also I wanted know what your position is on military membership?
Thank you, Molly
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Post by Tammy on Jun 26, 2008 21:01:05 GMT -5
Welcome to the board, Molly! I hope you enjoy the fellowship here.
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Post by mitchell on Jun 26, 2008 21:31:13 GMT -5
Welcome Molly. Glad you're here. I'm not that qualified to speak to the military question, but I do know that the centurion was saved and his job was of a military type, and I do not recall there being any mention of him being told to forsake his job. I'm sure there are many and varied opinions on this forum about war and the military. - I personally hate war because my father was a combat veteran of WWII, in the worst of it, and I know full well how the soldier suffers for a lifetime as a result of war, even a "just" war, as does his family to some extent. - Do I think the concentration camps and extermination camps they liberated should not have been liberated? The will of God is done through even negative occurrences. It is not a simple subject, although we might like it to be. This is just my personal opinion and not very definitive, and I certainly don't claim that it is the official opinion of this forum. Sister Wanda
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Post by molly on Jun 27, 2008 20:19:01 GMT -5
Hi and thank you all for the warm welcome. I have mixed feelings about the military too but I also have family in the military. I asked about the Apostolic Christian Churches and someone told me that they are not for the military. I agree that Jesus ministered to soldiers too. I hope to learn much from you all.
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Post by mitchell on Jun 27, 2008 20:41:55 GMT -5
Sister Molly, As far as the Apostolic Church is concerned, I don't know anything about that either. There aren't any I know of around close to us, so that's part of the reason I don't know anything to tell you about them. (There are some groups with apostolic in the name, though, that tend to push adherence to the Mosaic law even to the point of requiring the men to be circumcised, which certainly would be heresy. The group you mention may not be at all like that.) I do know, though, that there is not likely to be a perfect group of human beings in any church we find to attend on this earth. (If I found one that was perfect, if I joined, that would ruin their perfection. ) There really isn't a headcovering church close enough to me for me to go to without having to drive a prohibitively long distance at any rate. I visited one not too far from my home that had been a headcovering group, but they hadn't been able to keep up the rent or payments on it and had to sell out - or give it up - to a group of non-headcovering people. - The few times I visited there, I did not get a real warm welcome, and the welcome I got when I did start covering and visited there was really quite cold. I just don't have the stomach to keep on pushing to go someplace where they seem worried that "those people" they bought the place from are going to come back in and try to "take over". It has been rather discouraging. I would surely think, though, that you are ahead of the game if you've found a reasonable headcovering church in the one you mention - if it is sound doctrinally, that is, which maybe someone on here will know more about than I do. Surely, though, even the anti-military/war church members are not mean enough to skewer you for having relatives who are in the military. You don't rule your relatives! Sister Wanda
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Post by Andrea on Jun 28, 2008 9:57:50 GMT -5
Welcome Molly! I know Bro. Ben has some threads on here concerning his views on the military. I will see if I can find them. About the church you are asking, I don't really know anything about them but I'm sure Bro. Ben or Bro. George can and will answer about that church when they have the time. Welcome aboard and I look forward to fellowshipping with you.
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Post by SisterNancy on Jun 28, 2008 12:39:59 GMT -5
I just wanted to WELCOME YOU TO THE BOARDS! I know nothing about the church you mentioned and I do believe there are varying views of the military on these boards. Some are patriotic and very supportive of the military and government and others are nonresistant and have opposite views(although I can't speak for them as I don't know what they really are). So, my point is YOU ARE WELCOME HERE whichever way you lean! it is not an issue here! Hope you are enjoying our fellowship!
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Post by Andrea on Jun 28, 2008 13:03:11 GMT -5
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Post by molly on Jun 29, 2008 20:29:15 GMT -5
Thank you everyone! I believe that Jesus ministered to everyone so I am hesitant to go strictly nonmilitary in attending a congregation. I prefer one that recognizes the needs of our military men too.
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Post by Sister Penny on Jun 30, 2008 7:41:30 GMT -5
Welcome to our group Sister Molly, I am Sister Penny, helpmeet to Brother Jeffrey, we have 5 children, only 1 at home now, she's 15. We are conservative Christians living in NW lower penninsula of Michigan in the woods, literally :-)
I am a 20 year soapmaker, candle-making for many more years.
Welcome and God bless, Sister Penny
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Post by Brother Ben on Jun 30, 2008 11:53:11 GMT -5
Sister Molly you said:
I think any responsible congregation, though they may differ on whether or not a person should be involved with military and government, should have a view of ministering to the needs of everyone God sends their way. Jesus met people where they were, the blind, the religious, the lame, the rich, the poor, and the soldier. Let us practice "His" method and we will be in good shape.
Ben
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Post by molly on Jul 1, 2008 15:14:45 GMT -5
I agree with you, Brother Ben. They are all worthy of God's attention and of ours. I have had some bad experiences in the past with some headcovering denominations who as soon as they learn you have a relative in the military, they turn off "cold". This happened with 3 different Mennonite groups. Since then I have stopped seeking with the Mennonites. Sister Molly you said: I think any responsible congregation, though they may differ on whether or not a person should be involved with military and government, should have a view of ministering to the needs of everyone God sends their way. Jesus met people where they were, the blind, the religious, the lame, the rich, the poor, and the soldier. Let us practice "His" method and we will be in good shape. Ben
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Post by molly on Jul 1, 2008 15:15:41 GMT -5
Thank you and nice to meet you! ;D Welcome to our group Sister Molly, I am Sister Penny, helpmeet to Brother Jeffrey, we have 5 children, only 1 at home now, she's 15. We are conservative Christians living in NW lower penninsula of Michigan in the woods, literally :-) I am a 20 year soapmaker, candle-making for many more years. Welcome and God bless, Sister Penny
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Post by 7schmicks on Jul 4, 2008 16:55:52 GMT -5
Dear Molly, I am sorry that I am so slow to welcome you. I haven't been on here too much lately but plan to keep checking in as I am able, because so many of these people are trying to live for the Lord, that it is a great place to come for encouragement! I think war/nonresistance is a complicated "doctrine" to figure out. There are verses that indicate we should not fight (and may be speaking of resisting persecution for our beliefs as Christians on an personal level only) and yet some that make it not so clear such as the fact that Jesus told Peter to take a sword (which therefore must not have been wrong for him to do.) I'm not sure just where we stand, yet. I do know that some wars seem to be a necessary short-term evil to stop continual evil and oppression from prevailing, but at the same time, there are unjust wars meant to oppress people and usurp power. Sister Brenda
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