A thought....

[LindaFisk]

I have been thinking about music,movies and books. About what we should or should not read, hear or see. I know a lot of you ban tv and movies, lots of music and probably books too- although that subject hasn't really come up yet. While I can understand the reasoning behind not wanting to be too worldly, and wanting to stay away from bad influences, I think that in being so zealous you must miss a lot too. I was thinking of Aesops Fables, and how the animals talk-I figured that would be banned because animals don't really talk, so that might be considered satanic or supernatural or magical. Fairy tales would be out too, and what about Beatrice Potter? Is Peter Rabbit controlled by the devil?
As far as Winnie the Pooh, I know more TEXTpeopleTEXT with traits like those mentioned , yet I wouldn't shut myself or my kids off completely from them. I try to use them as examples, try to help them.
And while I would not let my kids watch music videos, I do allow them to listen to Disney radio, some rock and pop, blues and country, jazz and such because there is so much good music out there. I listen to it too! I don't get how a beat can be harmful. That doesn't make any sense at all. I'm not saying I want them to go to rock concerts and such, but to pretend like so many new songs are evil is not being truthful.
Movies and tv? I can understand not allowing many kids shows,they are mostly bad examples-at best! But there is still Food tv and History and Discovery and Travel and public tv and the Weather channel and news. Movies are harder,there are not as many family friendly ones but it can be done.
What about kids that are raised this way, cut off from reality? If you are discussing all these issues, sex,modesty, drugs,alcohol - ok, but if not, the kids will grow up and go out and do what? I would be afraid they would jump right into some trouble because they felt so left behind.
Anyway, I just can't believe that all these things are as bad as they are made out to be. Some of them,yes.
Sorry if I have offended anyone, I have been thinking and praying on this for a few days. I felt I needed to be honest and state another side to the story.
Linda

[benshelpmeet]

Dear sister Linda,

Thank you for your honest post. We are all learning and growing in our christian walk. If we don't ask questions how will we grow.

1. I have been thinking about music,movies and books. About what we should or should not read, hear or see. I know a lot of you ban tv and movies, lots of music and probably books too- although that subject hasn't really come up yet.

Yes we personally have chosen not to have a TV, alot of godly christians I personally know do not have one in there home and the results are good. I look at both sides and see the out come and make my choice accordingly. I have personally seen alot of good fruit in my own family from the choice we made to oust the TV and VCR.

2. While I can understand the reasoning behind not wanting to be too worldly, and wanting to stay away from bad influences, I think that in being so zealous you must miss a lot too.

Because of our choice to get rid of the TV we do not have to listen to our children argue over which video to watch, My children are more creative, they spend there time helping around the house playing out side, playing well with eachother, they think of others and think of ways to make special cards or homemade gifts for others, they bake and cook meals, and they don't have night mares or fears, etc.

3. I was thinking of Aesops Fables, and how the animals talk-I figured that would be banned because animals don't really talk, so that might be considered satanic or supernatural or magical. Fairy tales would be out too, and what about Beatrice Potter? Is Peter Rabbit controlled by the devil?

I never said anything about it being satanic, magical, and I never said anything about peter rabit being controlled by a devil. Be careful not to put words in my mouth or to blow things out of preportion. This Is a conservative site. and we do take a conservative stand and approach on the raising of our family without apoligy. The proof is in the pudding ( or the results or outcome of these choices.) It would be easy to be libral in our thinking and our christian expression but the results would be greivious to our soul. We want to raise children with a heart tward God and the things of God. It doesn't hurt to obstain from worldly lusts which war against the soul, actually it is good and gives peace and direction to the christians life. We are put on this earth to be a light and salt if we have nothing to offer what good are we? If our practice is just like the world, but with Jesus intertwined (or added to) what is the differance? What do we have to offer the lost world? We will have the same struggles as the lost world the same attitudes, desires, and outcome. God forbid!

4. As far as Winnie the Pooh, I know more TEXTpeopleTEXT with traits like those mentioned , yet I wouldn't shut myself or my kids off completely from them. I try to use them as examples, try to help them.

As for good ole Winnie the Pooh, He is cute, but we do not want to bring him and his bad habbits and friends into our home daily to teach our dear children. I actually thought it was quite funny how a child could pick up on all these bad character traits about something that seems so innocent. I posted this for people to think about what is babysitting and intertaining there dear children while they clean house, get on the computer, make super, etc. Winnie the pooh is one of the mildest cartoons or programs people let there children watch, but there is undesirable behaviour and attitudes that any parent would be liery of. I would not want my children to play with an angry child on a regular basis, much less some child with other prominate bad character traits. There are many winnie the pooh videos that make light of gambling, smoking, magic, lieing, steeling, halloween, there is one where Christopher Robbin talks smart allek to his dear mom.

5. And while I would not let my kids watch music videos, I do allow them to listen to Disney radio, some rock and pop, blues and country, jazz and such because there is so much good music out there.I listen to it too!

I have chosen music with a good beat and I have seen good results from this choice as well. You can choose the music you want but you will have the results it brings as well. When my son was 4 we went to the park and he was so happy because we lived in apartments and the park was so big and so much fun he got out of the van and ran toward the playground singing'' Were marching to Zion!'' Our hearts leaped for joy Ben said were doing something right because most kids would be singing some worldly song. He's 17 years old now and he'll be 18 next March. He has a heart toward God, he leads our singing at church and he's called to preach. He is a godly young man and when were out in public people comment on what a polite godly young man he is. Our children love to sing and they love music they sing while they play and the songs they sing honor the Lord. How could I ask for more? They know a worldly beat and they can pick it out. I know my choice will have good fruit. I know many christians who practice as I do and they have good godly lasting results.

[benshelpmeet]

Part two of my reply

6. I don't get how a beat can be harmful. That doesn't make any sense at all.

I'm sorry it doesn't make sence. It makes plenty of sence to alot of godly christians I know. When we first heard this topic on the beat we did not completely understand and we honestly didn't want to have to make a decision in that area because we liked the music we listened to it moved our heart. We justifyed it and made excusses for the song and what it was saying. But the Lord wanted to teach us a strong truth that would help us and cause us to have purity in that area. The bottom line was were we going to yeild this area of our life to God or not. We want to honor the Lord in all our ways so we yeilded to His wooing in this very important area of our christian walk and the Lord has abundantly blessed our yeilding this area of our life to him. It was not easy but it has yeilded much profitable fruit and I would make the same choice if I had it all to do over.

7. I'm not saying I want them to go to rock concerts and such, but to pretend like so many new songs are evil is not being truthful.

What is truth? What is good and evil? Are there any grey areas with God? What is Gods perfect will for the born again believer? The bible teaches: It was good in the site of God or It was evil in the site of God there are no grey areas with God and there should be no grey areas with Gods children.

8. Movies and tv? I can understand not allowing many kids shows,they are mostly bad examples-at best! But there is still Food tv and History and Discovery and Travel and public tv and the Weather channel and news. Movies are harder,there are not as many family friendly ones but it can be done.

I understand the arguement I had the same opinion once until I met other christians who practiced as I do now. There children had quilitys and strenghts I wanted in my children. I now have the results I wanted. My children have good godly quilities blosseming out of there daily lives that are good and profitable for daily life, there future, and there walk with God. TV is a waste of ones time at best. I had to make the sacrifice so we could reap good results and good fruits from our chiuldren. It was well worth it and we do not miss the ole TV or VCR at all not even the children miss it.

9. What about kids that are raised this way, cut off from reality?

Reality is all around us just a trip to Wal Mart, or out to eat, or when you witness to the lost, or visit a worldly church, etc. We do not need to bring it into our precious homes, we do not need to teach them the ways of the wicked unsaved world to open there eyes. They see enough, and they learn enough. If there is a differance in the home they will see what is good and evil they will see the differance. We as parents need to teach what Gods people should do and not do, what they should believe and not believe, This is done as you walk lifes pathway take the oppertunities as they come along and teach right from wrong. It works for many good godly christians out there and it works for whoever will choose to practice a careful godly lifestyle. It works the results are good and I choose what has good results.

10. If you are discussing all these issues, sex,modesty, drugs,alcohol - ok, but if not, the kids will grow up and go out and do what? I would be afraid they would jump right into some trouble because they felt so left behind.

They will feel left behind? They will desire the world and it's ungodly results? Immodesty, immorality, devorce, unthankfulness, noncontempment, ungodly behaviours and attitudes, lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye and the pride of life. I have a hard time believing they will desire the results the world and it's ways has to offer. They see the results of both sides Gods ways and the worlds ways and I know they wont and don't feel left behind. Actually they are ahead of the crowd because they are learning to make godly choices based on scripture and Gods principles they are learning to be confident in the Lord and His will for there lives and to have a vision for the lost world around them and to be leaders instead of followers. Many adults are still struggling in these areas. What a blessing to be taught this in the home.

11. Anyway, I just can't believe that all these things are as bad as they are made out to be. Some of them,yes.

We just share the things the Lord has taught us the things we know work and honor God. This site is here to help others who are wanting truth. We are here to help those who want to make steps upward. To live a seperated life unto God a life that brings much honor and glory to God. We all have to make choices in our christian walk and we will all stand before God one day and give account for the choices we have made and we will live with the results down here of the choices we have made.

12. Sorry if I have offended anyone, I have been thinking and praying on this for a few days. I felt I needed to be honest and state another side to the story.Linda

You have not offended us dear sister, actually it gives us the oppertunity to answer questions many might have. We grow when we ask questions that can be answered and truths explained.

I hope I have clearly answered your post. I hope this has been a blessing and a strength to someone out there.

[Brother Ben]

Dear Sister Linda,
I would like to make a few observations and answers regarding you post. You said you understood that we have these convictions because we don't want to be too worldly. Actually, we don't want to be worldly at all. We have so much of the world bearing in, pressing down, creeping in, seaping in, all the time that we have to be on a constant vigil. We have an adversary who knows all the sneaky tricks. If we do not hold up a standard in the poluted American version of Christianity, who will? Who is going to watch out for my family like me? If I am convicted about it, why should I not tell my brothers and sisters? I must, I am a watchman on the wall.

We will ban no reasonable discussion, but if someone is going to take a strong stand on error in a public discussion, they should not be suprised when the false teaching they espouse is brought to light. Many people do not react well to pure light. If a discussion becomes an evident act of rebellion, there is a good chance it might get deleted. Rules don't make rebels, they just expose them.
We also are careful to pick authors and works that stand the test of integrity. Though I do not believe the silly notion that the "devil" is making Peter Rabbit or the characters of Aesops fables, talk, I do want to know about the author. Beatrice Potter was a Socialist, and personally don't want her works in my house. If I have anything in my house by someone who I believe is a worker of ill for mankind, I will get rid of it. By February 1890, Beatrice Potter considered herself to be a socialist. She recorded in her diary what she meant by socialism (15th February, 1890)

"I have become a socialist not because I believe it would ameliorate the conditions of the masses (though I think it would do so) but because I believe that only under communal ownership of the means of production can you arrive at the most perfect form of individual development, at the greatest stimulus of individual effort; in other words complete socialism is only consistent with absolute individualism. As such, some day, I shall stand on a barrel and preach it."
It is obvious that this woman was a socialistic communist. Go ahead and accuse me of being a McCarthy era, enemy of the communists, but they have done much evil in the world, ask the Russian and Chinese Christians.
I clicked on Disney Radio and the first thing that popped up was a morbid looking Egytian mummy figure that declares, "I AM ALL THAT IS!" Tutenstein, the little dead dude with a huge attitude (that's what it says on the page.) There is also an ad that says 'New on VTR with a seductive looking girl (great example for my 12 almost 13 year old virgin blessing daughter.) I didn't have to go much further, not to mention that Disney is one the greatest advocates of Sodomy and wicked pervertedness. Do a little reserch. I'll post a link when I have the time.

You said, "I don't get how a beat can be harmful." Did you read the articles? Do you really think that fellow you promote looks like a chaste, godly, well kempt, young Christian man? I'd put the dogs after him if he came up my driveway asking to talk to my daughter.
I'll add more when i get time. Lunch is over.
PreacherBen

[debelynne]

Dear Sisters and Brothers...I have been convicted about movie and tv watching for a very long time...this summer it became pretty intense...I prayed about it and I no longer have a tv to watch...I want to bring honor and glory to God in all things...how can I do that if there is any kind of deity language at all in the movie? I can almost gaurantee you that you will not find any movie with out taking our Lord's name in vain...and if you do there will be some kind of sexual content, violence, witchcraft, sorcery, or booze/drugs which in God's eyes are SIN...I had to even re-valuate the "kids videos" my daughter was watching, they are gone also...do we miss them, NO...when you are faithful to the Holy Spirits leading...God will never disappoint you and will always provide other more wholesome entertainment...and music is another subject all in itself...worldly music takes me to a place in my mind that I don't want to be or should be....I guess what I am saying...If God says: Don't take the Lord God's name in vain, don't commit murder, fornication, adultry, homosexuality, don't lie, cheat, let no unwholesome word proceed out of your mouth, set no evil before your eyes, do not be involved in witchcraft/sorcery; so then if we sit and watch movies and tv in the name of entertainment...what is that saying about us as christians...I spent most of my life rationalzing all of this...saying its ok, I don't do those things...but I was filling my head with things of the world...God's word says "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virture, and if there be any praise, think on these things". Philippians 4:8....I myself find it really hard to do this command while watching or listening to movies, tv, or worldly music...These are my thoughts, I hope they help...Love to all the brothers and sisters...Debbie

[Alice R]

I think Darlene said much of what I would say but I do want to add a few thoughts on the music issue.

First, the people that are singing those songs (rock, rap, country-whatever) very few-if any have a solid realtionship with Christ. They are very lost people. Their lives are in bad shape to say the least. The lives exemplify everything that I do NOt want to be. By listening to their music-it's like we are condoning their lives...believe me, a life that is filled with some much rebellion and anger can not bear any good fruit. I prefer to keep it away from my soul as best as I can.

Secondly, the lyrics are rough and vile in many songs. They are singing or rapping about he most violent, dirty unGoldy things. Pick any song and listen to the words-really listen. I can guarantee you they are singing about s*x, drugs, girls, party lifestyles or any other thing that God finds intolerable. This is NOT a good idea to sing along with-especially for you children. I really don't my young son singing the words to a Brittney Spears song.

Thirdly, buying their CDs and listening to their music puts money in the pockets of the musician who is so clearly in rebellion to God. Give any musician an opportunity to talk about God and it's not going to be a pretty sight. They dislike us Conservative Christians and I refuse to make a donation to their cause-which includes hating me!

I don't know much about the beat in music. I do know filthy lyrics when I hear them and a musician whose life is at best-a mess.

For the sake of my children's souls-I keep them away from that type of music. Perhaps my children will be exposed to this when they get older-I'm sure they will. My goal is provide them with a strong foundation to discern right from wrong. By filling them with what it is Godly-I'm hoping to give them a yearning for what is good and holy. I pray that I give them those skills in their young life so when they are adults-they will look evil in the face and just know that it is wrong.

I'm going to post this and I'd like to add some more later but I want to post this long thing before it goes "POOF" and it is gone in cyberspace.

Blessings,
ALice

[Alice R]

Ok, to continue...

I grew up in a Conservative Christian home with a Godly mother. I attended a Baptist school. I watched minimal TV, listened to NO secular music and wore skirts.

I then had to go to public high school (due to lack of money for tuition) and you know what happened? Nothing. I was fine. I was a little culture shocked but I was fine. ;D

My strong values, good mind and my mother's Godly heart sustained me well in my life. I had no Christian freinds in high school but I found some freinds that were really nice kids-not Christian-but were decent. I stayed away from rock music and such. Of course I began to know some of the groups just from being around it but I knew it was evil and never listened to it on my own. I never went ga-ga over Madonna. It was clear in my 15 year old mind what she really was. I did wear pants but they were never anything tight or inappropriate. I followed some of the styles-I guess-some dopey earrings or leg warmers but never would be mistaken for a prostitute. No drinking, no drugs, no parties. I was a good teenager and I attribute that to my mother giving me such a sensitivity for what is right and what is wrong.

I went to college in NYC-again very liberal. I took all the clasess and was able to hold my ground on any discussion. I did my Master's degree. I worked before we had kids in some of the worst parts of NYC with some very lost people. I never wnadered inot their life style. It just made me even more determined to hold my ground.

My point is-that it is Ok to give your kids a strong foundation in right and wrong. I want to make the lines very clear for my children. No mistaking right and wrong. I know my kids will be exposed to things when they are older. But I'm hoping to give them wisdom, God's Law and a love of God to be able to live in the world (work, military, jobs etc.) but never compromise their principles.

I dont' give my baby soda in a baby bottle. I give it formula or nurse it. Why? They are doing to drink soda anyway so why bother-just let them have it now. Because I'm establishing a good healthy foundation for their bodies to grow.

I'm giving my children pure God. I want their souls to grow in a good, healthy, Godly envirornment. God will handle the rest!

Blessings from NY,
Alice

[LindaFisk]

I wanted to thank you all for your replies, it means a lot to me to get such honest answers. I don't agree with that much censorship, but I am careful about things.
Darlene, I was not trying to put words in YOUR mouth, I was writing in general. And I have never liked Pooh anyway, but we do watch Barney. I probably shouldn't admit that!
Ben, I feel I have made you angry and I am sorry I don't agree with you. I am trying very hard to be a good christian and to learn. If you felt the need to ban this post you should have. I am just being honest, not trying to stir up trouble for you.
I don't know a whole lot about socialists, politics has never been an interest of mine. I cannot fault a good book because of the author.
As for the Disney site, I have only seen it once or twice. It is not a site we usually go to. We listen to the radio station.
And yes, I did read the articles. But I don't think they are the truth.
Who am I promoting? David Phelps? Because I asked if anyone listened to David Phelps? That is one big stretch, Ben. And I have not seen a current pic of him, I simply like his singing. I did see him once in a local church and he was very clean shaven and looked nice, but I don't think that has much to do with his singing ability. I don't want to see him, just hear him.

Debbie, I understand exactly what you wrote and I agree with you, only , if we are not doing any of those things or watching any of those things- than how is it wrong? If we watch a nature show or history channel I don't see how I am exposing them or me to anything harmful.

Alice, I guess I don't feel very responsible for the shape of their souls. To me it is music. That's it. I don't buy much, can't afford it but we listen to the radio. we don't listen to songs wirh filthy lyrics.There are plenty of other songs. I don't think my buying an occasional cd will support their drug habit either.
Kinda like Harry Potter books, I never really banned them but told my son for now we would get other books and when he was older I would get them for him if he was interested in reading them.
Alice,
You sound like you had a great mom,that is so special. I have 2 but they are not good mothers. We are homeschooling our children, I am hoping to avoid a lot of peer pressure that way. For me, peer pressure was really hard to deal with. I did many stupid things to try and fit in. That is why I raised the concern about them growing up and going out in the world and not knowing how to handle things.

I don't post much anyway, but since this seems to have upset Ben and Darlene I will stop and go away if that is what they want. Linda

[Brother Ben]

Linda,
We don't want you to go away, we just wanted to make it plain and clear that we do not believe the way you stated. As listed in the note to newcomers, this is a conservative, kjv, baptist site. We view it similar, but not same, to a church type environment. If someone comes boldly forward and states things that I don't see as healthy, spiritually, I am going to react. I assure you, I am not angry, passionate about what I believe, yes, angry, no. We hope you will stay, but just be consciencious, that bold statements will get bold replies. I hope that we can be a blessing to you and that you will prosper in your walk with the Lord Jesus Christ because THAT is what it is really all about anyway.

For the glory of Christ,
Bro. Ben

[LindaFisk]

Ben,
Thank you for your reply. I am glad you are not angry,you answered so harshly that I thought you were.
Can you explain what you meant about the person I was promoting? I do not understand.
And I am sorry if I came across as "bold". I will be the first to admit I am not very meek but I'm not sure I understand the bold part either.
I am glad you are passionate and serious. You all have already been a blessing to me and my family. I have learned a lot from this site and wish there was more posted! I am really interested in the bible version posts. I never knew what big differences there were between the KJV and NKJV .
Linda

[sherri]

Ok, i know i'm late, but since i love Linda so much i have to reply too! Linda and i are practically twins, our lives are so identical in many ways!

Well, Linda, this is to you.
Truely, if you want Godly children who will not rebel from you, you have to nip the world in the bum! the reason kids who were in strict homes rebel is because they were in strict homes BUT were put into the world everyday through school, tv, music videos... So of course they were seeing all their friends get to do all this cool stuff, and mom and dad were being over protective and unreasonable. But when u have the whole package as God asks of us as parents, then you have full results. The kind you WANT. Kids that wont talk back, or disrespect others. Children that enjoy working and helping others. Children whos best friends are their brothers and sisters. These are the kind of children i thik most want. Add the Christian twist on it: Children who love Jesus, love being in church, love singing. Children who delight in memorizing God's word, and sharing it with others. To get results like these to must be 100% doing it God's way. Truely cutting out any gray areas in your life for the sake of your children. If it's black stay away, it's not godly, so stay away! If it's grey (BLACK and white mack grey, rememeber that.) stay away! If it's white you'll KNOW it's white!
This isn't to say that cooking channels aren't good things for new ideas... or that HGTV can't help make your home beautiful and harmonious, but truely, take our word for it, get the tv out of your house, wait a week, and just see if you want it back. WE did a one month tv fast. dh wants the tv back for preaching videos, and some movies, but for me, it sounds like a recording of someone vomiting! I don't ever want to get trapped into it's draw again. My daughter doesn't miss it. When dh watches it she doesn't go flocking to it at all. she's perfectly fine to keep playing with her brother or help me cook dinner. Shes alwyas opt to helping clean up, cuz work is tought to be a good thing. And since sitting on her bum doing nothing but staring at a screen isn't an option, she's got no better alternative but to help out. Getting rid of the tv and vcr/dvd is just something that blesses you that you can't realy fathom until its GONE! And it's GREAT! As for music, yeah personally i don't like a lot of the ccm out there cu i feel like the ladies are moving their body in a non christian way, and both men and women seem to be dressed in wordly fashions, i presume to draw in non christian listeners (which isn't a bad thing by the way). But for us, we try to stay away from worldy fashions just cuz we like the idea of people being able to point us out as christians in a "line up". And when its very clear you're a christian, you're one, accountable to everyone, and two people will flock to you for advice and a glimps of the light you have that they so desperately need/want. But beyond the fashons of the music artists, just be sure the wrods are openly GIVING PRAISE to JESUS. The Bible teaches us that in all we do it needs to be focused on God, and praising Him. Our lives are truely to revolve around loving, serving, raising, worshipping God and Jesus, and telling others about him everywhere we go. So if you're not listening to music that offers direct praise to Jesus then consider nixing it. Make sure also the tunes you chose don't talk about loving the "one". I personally don't like song that leave you assuming it's a bout Jesus. I call them "insert you god here" songs cuz you could very easily put allah or buddah's name in many of these songs. So i want to be sure that JESUS and ONLY Jesus is getting the praise. But that's my thing. Of course if it's talking about the Old rugged cross, that's fine there's only one worth singing about that died on one of them. When you get thises things out of your home your family gets close. You become very tight, very loving. Best Friends. It's worth the loss of the tv. WEre soon going another 4 mos with zero tv or computer. We will be blessed by it i'm sure!
Hope this helps Linda... HUGS to you!
Sherri

[LindaFisk]

I want to thank Sherri for writing and wish her luck!

I also want to say that I feel very misunderstood about this subject and that the attitude of the people here is going to drive me away.
For the record, we are a close family, we do everything humanly possible together. Grocery shopping,car buying,post office and just errands to the store together. Because we all love each other.We also homeschool our children. We talk a lot to our kids, they come to us with questions and problems because they know they can count on us. Our neighbors kids also come here-daily,because they get the attention from us.
Our kids are polite,they don't back talk and they play well with each other too.The older kids care for the baby,they share with her and treat her and all other little kids well.
So we are already a close and loving family.
We will continue to watch some tv. I rarely watch it,I don't have time for it. But we will continue to see Food, Home and Garden and History for John who is smarter in that subject than anyone I've ever known, [and he's only 11] and Animal Planet for my daughter that loves animals and Barney for the baby. And being in Texas, I like to see the weather radar too during tornado season.
As for books, I still cannot fault a great book because I personally don't agree with the author.
And as far as music goes,lets just say I remain unconvinced.
And I'm still trying to figure out WHO I was promoting-that question was never answered by Ben. Neat,huh?

Ben wrote:We will ban no reasonable discussion, but if someone is going to take a strong stand on error in a public discussion, they should not be suprised when the false teaching they espouse is brought to light. Many people do not react well to pure light. If a discussion becomes an evident act of rebellion, there is a good chance it might get deleted. Rules don't make rebels, they just expose them.

I don't see any false teaching here, I don't see any error. What I see is not rebellion on my part, it is the ability to use my God given common sense to point out that you might just be wrong. And you didn't like it.And so you got nasty and started talking about banning things. How christian of you. Not calmly discussing things, just being superior and pushy.
I am sure that this post will be banned right away-wouldn't want someone to actually read it. Sounds like fear to me. Loss of control,maybe.
Good luck, I will miss some of you, I wish you all peace and love and the blessings of God, Linda