kscarle
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Post by kscarle on Nov 6, 2007 23:50:20 GMT -5
Hello, my name is Kristie and I live here in the south (Georgia). I am an independent fundamental baptists if that is something anyone wants to know. i once heard a man say that although denomination doesn't save you, it lets others know what you're beliefs are. There are some of us that still believe in the FUNDAMENTAL. my husband and i both believe the men and women are to dress modest. We have recently been discussing some things about head covering and about men wearing long or short sleeves. Recently i started wearing one for prayer at home and at church. No one has said anything YET about it but I find it difficult to take it on and off throughout service for prayer. I am wanting to learn more about head covering; some imput on whether it should be worn for just prayer or if it is alright to wear it more often. My church probably would not agree with me on this and so I'd like to ask from women who do cover. I am already odd to them in that i do not wear makeup or cut my hair (i want to do what's right, not just to fit in)....... the things i enjoy are reading my Bible (and reading biographies of missionaries, evangelist, and such.), walking, sewing, helping my husband, playing scrabble, and learning to play the piano. We do not own a television so i can't talk about that...the computer is needful for his schooling and church work. Will someone please tell me what HH /DH means? Thank You
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Post by Tammy on Nov 17, 2007 23:42:05 GMT -5
Hello Kristie, Welcome to the board! My Dear Husband (DH) and I are Independent, Fundamental Baptists, too. Being fundamentalists, we believe the Bible. And when you believe the Bible, it tends to change you! I started covering about a year ago, as a result of our personal Bible study (apart and together), and much prayer. It makes us stick out, but that's okay! I look forward to getting to know you better Sis Tammy
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kscarle
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Post by kscarle on Nov 18, 2007 15:00:51 GMT -5
Thank you Tammy for your response. I was also thankful to learn what DH meant. I just recently started covering and its has only been a couple of weeks that I stayed covered throughout church. I read something Bro. Ben replied and since I teach the children's Sunday school, I needed to be covered for that too. My husband is pleased about it. I would like to know if there is a certain type of covering that I should wear. I know it should be odest, but I make dresses and I usually have enough left over to make a matching covering but I wasn't sure that it was appropiate. Any input? Kristie
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Post by Tammy on Nov 20, 2007 18:52:07 GMT -5
Well, since we don't belong to a church that has a set standard, i.e. specific type of covering that all the ladies use for sake of unity, we have liberty to look at the Scriptures and look at options available to us, in order to decide what type of covering to use. We think the Scriptural word for the covering clearly indicates a veil that hangs down. We think any veil that hangs down is closer to the original intent, and it looks lovely, too! I have a few scarves I use, in basic, non-flashy colors (black, navy, cream, white) that go with just about everything I wear. I fold them into a triangle and tie them under my bun, then secure just above the ears with "clippies". I recently made myself a dress, and had enough left over for a matching veil, and I think it looks nice. It is soft pastel green, with tiny white flowers on it. The important thing is that the colors/patterns you choose are modest, shame-faced, and sober, in keeping with the Christian lady's attire (I Tim 2:9). Blessings, Sis Tammy
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kscarle
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Post by kscarle on Nov 21, 2007 11:44:46 GMT -5
Tammy,
Thank you very much for the input. I also agree that it should be a veil that hangs down. I will say it is a bit of a struggle at times because my hair is very soft and it has blown off before. Again I do appreciate the input because it doesn't make sense to throw away extra material (I do save some for quilting ) that could be used and my husband had also mentioned it to me. Covering is often, is still new to me so I don't know much yet. There is a missionary in one of our sister churches whose wife and daughter seem to cover, but they wear hats or small triangles. Also I am trying to find a place for patterns.
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Post by prv31wife on Nov 21, 2007 13:51:32 GMT -5
Hello Kristie, Try Candle on the Hill or Prayercoverings.com. They have nice patterns for coverings.
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Post by SisterNancy on Dec 20, 2007 15:59:47 GMT -5
HI, I was just wondering if you are still putting on and taking off your covering? I want to encourage you to put it on at home before leaving for church and take if you are going to take it off take it off when you get home from church. The witness may be a stronger witness that way. others might be thinking if your going to wear it wear it. I did read where someone wore it and the pastor did not comment. Was that you? I hope if it was that that encouraged you to continue to wear it. Thanks for visiting my fellowship post and welcoming me.
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Post by wife on Dec 21, 2007 9:37:05 GMT -5
When I first began to wear coverings, it was only during prayer. etc...but like you, I found putting it on and taking it off just too much. I felt that it wasn't really a modest thing to call attention to myself and possibly hold up prayer time so I could tie it on. Then my husband and I heard a sermon on tape called "Let her be covered" and it really pointed out some things. First, the covering is not only about praying and prophesying, but about headship.
1 Cor 11:3 says "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." Later in v. 7-10- it is written: "For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels."
Now, the "because of the angels" thing is a mystery to me, though I suspect it also has to do with the hierarchal order of things in the spiritual realm. So this passage we believe has actually more to do with headship than only with prayer and prophesy. Culturally speaking, the women of that time all wore a type of covering, but that there is a possibility that the newly converted women of Corinth were taking theirs off during meetings because they were "Free in Christ" and suddenly equal in their inheritance in the kingdom with men and that's why it specifically mentions prayer and prophesy. It is not just the physical piece of cloth but also the attitude in which we are wearing it. If we continue to "know our place" in the family as under the rule and authority of our husbands or fathers, then we wouldn't just stand up and "testify" unless our husband's have asked us to, or approve it and we know our men (hopefully) well enough to know if that is something he would approve or notr. I have seen many a woman stand up and say "Let me tell you what the Lord has done for me" only to have the husband look embarrassed by her boldness before the congregations- although nothing she said was wrong- but she was stepping out of the position God has placed her in. By wearing the covering all the day long, we are acknowledging that we choose to be in the position that the Lord has put us in. In fact, we are not resisting or rebelling in the hierarchal order He has made- from Heaven on down. Of course, it is one thing if your husband sees this and another if he doesn't. If a husband doesn't want his wife to always cover then she should obey him. Gen 16:5 says "And Sarai said unto Abram, My wrong be upon thee: I have given my maid into thy bosom; and when she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes: the LORD judge between me and thee." If it is wrong for you not to cover and your husband says not to, then because of his authority over you, the Lord will decide between you if you have sinned or if your husband has. Prayer, subjection, and chaste conversation is what changes our husbands (see 1 Peter 6:1-6).
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kscarle
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Post by kscarle on Dec 21, 2007 17:40:15 GMT -5
Sister Nancy,
I am wearing it most of the time now, but my husband likes me to take it off when we are alone sometimes to look at my hair. I wear it so much now that I've slept with it on.
My DH says that it is probably referring to; angels do not know rebellion as we do and indeed it is referring to headship order. I totally agree with you about the speaking in church and when the pastor ask if anyone wants to brag on Jesus, II know I am to ask my husband before I raise my hand. There was a woman that would speak out before and it was evident she embarrassed her husband. We should lift our husbands up.
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Post by SisterNancy on Jan 15, 2008 18:58:24 GMT -5
For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels."
I heard that the angels have charge over us Psalm 91:11(and others) and are to minister to the saints Hebrews1:14 and others. Therefore when we wear a covering it helps them Know us to be a woman of God and worthy of their protection and ministering.
Have any of you heard that? what do you all think about that? It opened up a whole study into the angels for us and yes, the Bible does say they minister to us and protect us.
I don't think it means we are honering the angels or that if we are not wearing the covering they wont minister to us. I think That because of the authority of God we wear the covering and it helps the angels assist us.
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Post by Brother Randy on Jan 15, 2008 21:43:50 GMT -5
Sister Nancy,
It is my thought on this that you should go ahead and wear a covering if that is what the Lord has showed you. If the subject of your short hair comes up use it to testify of how the Lord has changed your life. Now if you was wearing a covering and cutting you hair short that would be another subject. To me this is just like salvation, we do'nt wait until our life is all in right order first. We accept the Lord into our life and then allow him to change us to what he wants.
May the Lord bless you for doing this
Bro Randy
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