Post by Brother Ben on Dec 29, 2005 13:26:30 GMT -5
Dearest Brethren,
There has been alot of upset the last day or so with the enrollment of one, bigbbaptist. Actually, this all started roughly a month ago. It is with much grief and disappointment that I have to come today and expose the bitterness, deceptiveness, and devisiveness of our former member Ben Brown, alias Pulpiteer, alias bigbbaptist.
We had a disagreement about a month ago over his and Michelle's stand on absolute authoritarianism. This is his teaching that a wife or children are to do EVERYTHING you say, even if it is wickedness. I stated my disagreement with him and strongly advised him to cease from propagating this philosophy on THIS discussion board. He can believe what he wants, but he cannot post it here.
He had crossed the line once before and I corrected him and he apologized. However, he did not really respect our position because he insisted on pushing "his" agenda regardless to strong words of admonishment. He realized that he was out of line and withdrew his membership peacefully, I thought. He sent the following withdraw:
This is why I addressed Bro. Brown, alias bigbbaptist, with the following verse.
Pro 27:6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
Real Christian love does not come back with a cloak to stick a dagger in your back and that of your wife. I was very upset that Bro. Brown, alias bigbbaptist, attacked my wife in his post. He did not address me, nor seek to ask me about anything she might have said, but instead, posted in a smart alec way to my dear wife. Integrity would have led him to come directly to me.
Psa 41:9 Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.
This bigbbaptist business was all an act of deceit. I addressed his error last night in a PM, and he said it was his uncle, but the I.P. address (your computers personal identification number) is that of their home computer. I will not go into all the detail we have, but suffice it to say, as administrator of this board, I can tell who is on, and basically what they are doing.
Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Act 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
It also came to my attention that they had created their own discussion board where they could espouse their "personal" teachings. That is fine with me, but I found it interesting that every member there that I know of is either a current or past member of this board.
Though this was somewhat of a personal hurt, I hope they will correct their ways for the Lord's sake. It is His testimony they will hurt if they conduct themselves in this way, not to mention families they may hurt. How can they lead a flock of God as pastor and pastors wife, if they knowingly conduct themselves in this manner.
I asked Sister Brown about her husbands activities last night in PM's and she replied,
I should have expected this answer since Bro. Brown has absolute authority and she is not to "follow up" on an honest question when asked, even if deceitfulness is sin. Do you see the problem with all this philosophy? They didn't belong here in the first place. They did not heed my words in the Letter to newcomers or advice on board direction, namely, if you find yourself butting heads with leadership, peacefully go somewhere else. They did not do this, but instead continued to carry on here. The false profile, bigbbaptist was the last straw.
I have continued to get in contact with them and the (supposed) uncle who:
1. Uses their computer (same I.P. address)
2. Is the same age as Ben Brown
3. Likes all of Pulpiteers (Ben Brown) posts.
4. Espouses the identical rhetoric Ben Brown teaches
5. Refuses to call me or let me get in touch with him.
Based on this sinful and non-Christian behaviour, I have decided to ban them from this site. A ban is more than an internet option to be clicked on, it is a Christian action taken to cause the guilty party to be ashamed of their wicked behaviour and repent.
It is advised that this Christian community, Head Covering Baptists, does not seek to continue encouraging thier sinful behaviour by promoting dialog. I am not your pastor, or elder, and I know this only internet, but I would like to ask you to honor this request. Furthermor, if they contact you through email or through some other member (some of you are on both boards!) I would ask you to please PM me or sister Darlene so that I can address any continued grievence.
Henceforth we will turn this over to the Lord.
2Ti 4:14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
My last request is that we will ask the Lord to inspect our hearts, cause us to be troubled at this breech in our fellowship, and be in prayer that they will repent and make right for their behaviour.
Luk 6:28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
With love and resolve,
Bro. Ben
This post is intentionally locked at this time. I feel we need to be silent before the Lord and pray.
Link to posts by bigb
coveredbaptists.proboards31.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1135704607&page=1
There has been alot of upset the last day or so with the enrollment of one, bigbbaptist. Actually, this all started roughly a month ago. It is with much grief and disappointment that I have to come today and expose the bitterness, deceptiveness, and devisiveness of our former member Ben Brown, alias Pulpiteer, alias bigbbaptist.
We had a disagreement about a month ago over his and Michelle's stand on absolute authoritarianism. This is his teaching that a wife or children are to do EVERYTHING you say, even if it is wickedness. I stated my disagreement with him and strongly advised him to cease from propagating this philosophy on THIS discussion board. He can believe what he wants, but he cannot post it here.
He had crossed the line once before and I corrected him and he apologized. However, he did not really respect our position because he insisted on pushing "his" agenda regardless to strong words of admonishment. He realized that he was out of line and withdrew his membership peacefully, I thought. He sent the following withdraw:
Quote:Dear Brother Ben,
I Love You, dear Brother! Once again I seem to have been offending, and for that I am truly sorry. If you wish, I will leave the board. God bless You!
In Christian love,
The other Brother Ben
I Love You, dear Brother! Once again I seem to have been offending, and for that I am truly sorry. If you wish, I will leave the board. God bless You!
In Christian love,
The other Brother Ben
This is why I addressed Bro. Brown, alias bigbbaptist, with the following verse.
Pro 27:6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
Real Christian love does not come back with a cloak to stick a dagger in your back and that of your wife. I was very upset that Bro. Brown, alias bigbbaptist, attacked my wife in his post. He did not address me, nor seek to ask me about anything she might have said, but instead, posted in a smart alec way to my dear wife. Integrity would have led him to come directly to me.
Psa 41:9 Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.
This bigbbaptist business was all an act of deceit. I addressed his error last night in a PM, and he said it was his uncle, but the I.P. address (your computers personal identification number) is that of their home computer. I will not go into all the detail we have, but suffice it to say, as administrator of this board, I can tell who is on, and basically what they are doing.
Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Act 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
It also came to my attention that they had created their own discussion board where they could espouse their "personal" teachings. That is fine with me, but I found it interesting that every member there that I know of is either a current or past member of this board.
Though this was somewhat of a personal hurt, I hope they will correct their ways for the Lord's sake. It is His testimony they will hurt if they conduct themselves in this way, not to mention families they may hurt. How can they lead a flock of God as pastor and pastors wife, if they knowingly conduct themselves in this manner.
I asked Sister Brown about her husbands activities last night in PM's and she replied,
I do not follow up on my husband if you have a question for him his email is...
I should have expected this answer since Bro. Brown has absolute authority and she is not to "follow up" on an honest question when asked, even if deceitfulness is sin. Do you see the problem with all this philosophy? They didn't belong here in the first place. They did not heed my words in the Letter to newcomers or advice on board direction, namely, if you find yourself butting heads with leadership, peacefully go somewhere else. They did not do this, but instead continued to carry on here. The false profile, bigbbaptist was the last straw.
I have continued to get in contact with them and the (supposed) uncle who:
1. Uses their computer (same I.P. address)
2. Is the same age as Ben Brown
3. Likes all of Pulpiteers (Ben Brown) posts.
4. Espouses the identical rhetoric Ben Brown teaches
5. Refuses to call me or let me get in touch with him.
Based on this sinful and non-Christian behaviour, I have decided to ban them from this site. A ban is more than an internet option to be clicked on, it is a Christian action taken to cause the guilty party to be ashamed of their wicked behaviour and repent.
It is advised that this Christian community, Head Covering Baptists, does not seek to continue encouraging thier sinful behaviour by promoting dialog. I am not your pastor, or elder, and I know this only internet, but I would like to ask you to honor this request. Furthermor, if they contact you through email or through some other member (some of you are on both boards!) I would ask you to please PM me or sister Darlene so that I can address any continued grievence.
Henceforth we will turn this over to the Lord.
2Ti 4:14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
My last request is that we will ask the Lord to inspect our hearts, cause us to be troubled at this breech in our fellowship, and be in prayer that they will repent and make right for their behaviour.
Luk 6:28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
With love and resolve,
Bro. Ben
This post is intentionally locked at this time. I feel we need to be silent before the Lord and pray.
Link to posts by bigb
coveredbaptists.proboards31.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1135704607&page=1