16 Entire Verses Removed from the NIV

[kjvsteve]

I know this is kind of an old topic, it has been dealt with on this forum a few times before, but recently I was invited to a church, and my first mistake was assuming it was a KJV-only type of church. It wasn't.

Upon my arrival, KJV in hand, I was handed an NIV, and told I would find the 1 hour bible study easier to follow if I used it in place of KJV.
Not a chance!

Anyway, I've spent more time comparing various versions since then, and one thing I found that I didn't realize before, is that there are 16 ENTIRE VERSES removed from the NIV new testament.

None of the following words of God can be found in the NIV:


1- Matthew 17:21 "Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."

2- Matthew 18:11 "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."

3- Matthew 23:14 "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation."

4- Mark 7:16 "If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."

5- Mark 9:44 "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

6- Mark 9:46 "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

7- Mark 11:26 "But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."

8- Mark 15:28 "And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."

9- Luke 17:36 "Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

10- John 5:4 "For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."

11- Acts 8:37 "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

12- Acts 15:34 "Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still."

13- Acts 24:7 "But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands,"

14- Acts 28:29 "And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves."

15- Romans 16:24 "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."

16- I John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."


Of course, these are just the ENTIRE VERSES that are removed, so many other verses have been twisted and dissected beyond all recognition.


Bro. Steve

[jessicasherrow]

It wasn't until I became a part of this group that I discovered there were people who would ONLY read KJV. I didn't understand. I grew up hearing how King James picked and chose what went into the Bible, so to hear that some people would ONLY read that version was beyond me. Now, some of you know, I am pretty new at living the life of a Christian, so I have alot to learn. Making friends through the internet, I found many more Christians who were adamant about being KJV-only. So, I had to know why. I came across a website that showed where the NIV and other translations skipped some words and twisted others. It also mentioned at least one verse that was omitted, but I had no idea there were so many. Upon reading that site and seeing the differences in translations, I became a KJV-only reader as well. Thanks for the post, you helped convince me even more. I still own other translations, mostly just the NIV, but I try to always pick up the KJV.

[George]

I still own other translations, mostly just the NIV,

Please forgive me for being bluint and to the point but that is the way I am, especially when defending the one, true Bible, the King James Bible. You ought to take those other "translations" and throw them in the garbage where they belong. Especially the NIV which is an acronym for Not Inspired Version. Are you aware that there are over 65,000 words fewer in the NIV than there are in the King James Bible? Are you aware the NIV says that Lucifer and Jesus Christ are one and the same person? And you still read that piece of trash? My word!

Incidentally, King James had absolutely nothing to do with translating the Bible and in no way could pick and chose which words went into it. He was responsible for the selection of a lot of the men on the translation committee but that is the extent of his involvement.

I could go on and on in this area as I believe can most of the people here, especially the men. It would be a good thing if you sought out a copy of the book, "Purified Seven Times" by Bill Bradley. It is a clear explanation of why the King James Bible is the only true Bible. The others are at best watered down "versions" of the True Bible and the NIV is the worst of the lot.

In Christ,
George

[George]

Brother Steve there are a lot more than 16 verses omitted. I suggest you do a little more digging. You will most likely be astounded at what you find. As I just mentioned there are over 65,000 words fewer in the Not Inspired Version than there are in the King James Bible. That covers both old and new Testaments but it certainly is a lot more than 16 verses in the New Testament.

Incidentally, contrary to popular belief and modern practice the King James Bible is NOT a "version." It is the King James Bible. I have a collection of antique Bibles dating to the late 1600's. Not one of them published before the end of the 19th century uses the word "version" in its title. That word was added when the first modern perversion of the Bible was published which I believe was in 1881.

In Christ,
George

[kjvsteve]

The verses which I refer are the ones that are literally missing from the text, so for example you will have Matthew 17, verses 18, 19, 20, 22, 23 ~ there is literally no mention of verse 21.

There are other occasions where verses are in the main text, but have a footnote claiming that they are omitted in certain manuscripts, ard casts doubt over their validity, for Example Matthew 21:44 is in the NIV, but a footnote suggests that it should be taken out.

Here's a helpful table I found regarding the missing new testament verses.

Table key:

• O = omitted in main text
  
• F = omission noted in the footnote
  

In addition to the entire verse omissions, there are many, many, many phrases removed from verses, but the verse still remains in a watered-down form.
An example of this is number 16, in my original list, I John 5:7.

King James reads:

• For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
  

But the NIV reads:

• For there are three that testify.
  

As Brother George mentioned, NIV has 65,000 less words than our beloved King James. .
I noted that the word 'Hell' appears 54 times in KJV but only 14 times in the NIV.

Some other little facts the New King James [NKJV] I found out:

• Removes the word 'God' 51 times
  
• Removes the word 'Lord' 66 times
  
• Removes the word 'heaven' 50 times
  
• KJV uses 'Jehovah' 7 times; never used in the New King James
  
• The word 'damnation' used 11 times KJV; never used in NKJV
  
• New King James has 2289 less words in the new testament.
  

Ok, that's all for now, this fact finding is fun!

Bro. Steve

[Brother Ben]

". . . then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word. . ."

Luke 8:12b

[jessicasherrow]

No, I did not realize all of that about the NIV. Thank you both for enlightening me. I will not read the NIV again. Thanks also for the book recommend. I will try to find it and read it so I can learn more. Don't worry about being blunt, I appreciate all the help as I am learning every day.

[Brother Ben]

In Matthew 5:22, Jesus said,

"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment."

However, the newer versions, including the New International Version (NIV), eliminate the vital phrase "without a cause." To the average person this may not seem to be serious, but it is. Jesus became very angry in John 2:15. In fact, Jesus made a whip and drove the people out of the temple. Here the Bible says,

"And when he [Jesus] looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts."

If you have a King James Bible, then there is no problem. However, if you are using the NIV, then you have a problem, because Jesus did indeed have a cause to be angry, i.e., "...the hardness of their hearts." If the NIV is accurate, then Jesus Himself is in danger of the judgment.

I know a current elder in church, who backs the NIV, who told me King James added the phrase, "without a cause," because he was mad at a brother and wanted this added to justify his anger. What poppycock.

The bottom line is, if someone wants to know the truth about these new translations, they will research it and be made wise. Unfortuantely, many if not most accept the persons of scholarship and receive their misinformation lock, stock, and barrel.

[George]

(Rev 22:19) And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


In Christ,
George