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Post by nightingale on Feb 2, 2007 17:53:25 GMT -5
I just read that the state of Texas will require girls entering into the 6th grade (ages 11-12) to be vaccinated against the sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer. This particular strain of virus is only acquired through sexually contact. I first learned about this vaccine in nursing class, and even though it does help prevent girls/women from cervical cancer, I was shocked to think that health care providers were encouraging parents of these young girls to receive the vaccine. I am now even more shocked that it is being required to enter Jr. high school in the state of Texas. It is kinda of silly sounding to teach your girls to abstain from sex until marriage, but just in case take this vaccine ....I hope all of you moms that get to stay home and school your children just how blessed you are...Please pray the rest of us can find an alternative to the public school system.... Blessings...Sis Debbie
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Post by jeff on Feb 2, 2007 19:28:56 GMT -5
It always concerns me when the government mandates something that is supposedly "in our best interest".
Not that avoiding cancer is necessarily a bad thing, but it makes me realize that it's just another way of getting the American people comfortable with the idea of just going along with whatever the government says, or wants to do for us or to us. Like sheep.....
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Post by Brother Ben on Feb 3, 2007 14:30:06 GMT -5
Dan 1:3 And the king spake unto Ashpenaz the master of his eunuchs, that he should bring certain of the children of Israel, and of the king's seed, and of the princes; Dan 1:4 Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans. Dan 1:5 And the king appointed them a daily provision of the king's meat, and of the wine which he drank: so nourishing them three years, that at the end thereof they might stand before the king.
Dan 1:8 But Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the portion of the king's meat, nor with the wine which he drank: therefore he requested of the prince of the eunuchs that he might not defile himself.
Since it is the place of parents to keep our children undefiled, this needs to be the type of policy that convinces those who are still in the public school system to take action. There was a time when I used to agree that God's people should leave their children in the public schools system as salt and light, but the system is so corrupted that instead of being salt and light, they are coming home, reprogrammed for a new world order.
1Ch 12:32 And of the children of Issachar, which were men that had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do; the heads of them were two hundred; and all their brethren were at their commandment.
In this description of some of David's mighty men, these one's had the outstanding characteristic that they, "...had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do..." How God's people need to be like that also.
I am not sure of this, but if you were to check with some group like the Christian Law Association, you might find that there is a loop hole in that requirement that Bible believing Christians can use.
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Post by nhisgrp on Feb 3, 2007 17:09:09 GMT -5
["instead of being salt and light, they are coming home, reprogrammed for a new world order."]
Yes! When I told my family about my decision to homeschool I got this snotty remark from my brother, "Ya, God forbid there be Christian kids in public school!"
I was like excuse me but we aren't born Christians and my kids aren't yet. Even if they had made a profession of faith they would still be just babes in Christ and you can't tell me that they would stand much of a chance under that much of an influence.
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Post by nhisgrp on Feb 4, 2007 14:14:30 GMT -5
I just heard a lady on the radio make a good point on this. she asked where all the "my body my choice" advocates are during this debate.
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Post by prv31wife on Feb 4, 2007 16:27:20 GMT -5
You are so right! I thought for sure those strange people would be out campaigning and protesting! This whole mess is just another way the goverment is trying to take away a parents right in raising their children. Here in CA some crazy lady who doesn't have children is trying to make spanking children under 4 and crime Also here parents can't be notified if their minor daughters want to have a abortion but must get permission to get their ears pierced. Some things I guess I'll never understand.
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Post by jeff on Feb 4, 2007 22:09:29 GMT -5
Also here parents can't be notified if their minor daughters want to have a abortion but must get permission to get their ears pierced. Some things I guess I'll never understand. I hadn't actually considered that before. What a topsy-turvy world we live in. Even so, come, Lord Jesus!
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Post by Brother Ben on Feb 5, 2007 18:54:50 GMT -5
I was listening to NPR on the way home tonight and they said it is being addressed as "mandatory" to force the issue. They said anyone can opt out of it, but they wanted it to be a mandatory issue so parents could make an informed choice. Because of the extremely high ratio of cervical cancer and human papaloma virus cases in the State of Texas, they public health services are doing something about it because it deals mostly with the low income sector of the State's ecomony.
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Post by Andrea on Feb 15, 2007 16:05:38 GMT -5
Even so, come, Lord Jesus! AMEN!!
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Post by Tammy on Feb 16, 2007 2:11:27 GMT -5
Unfortunately, our TX governor has been swayed by the "almighty dollar" (Merck, who makes the vaccine, was a big contributor to Perry's campaign).... Not using his brain on this one!
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Post by parris on Feb 25, 2007 22:46:07 GMT -5
No vaccines are really "mandatory." Every state, Texas included offers exemptions. In Texas, I had signed affidavits for each of my three children, issued by the state and notarized. They said that for religious and/or medical reasons we choose to opt out of vaccinating out children. Then you put a checkmark next to each vaccination you do not want them to have.
The state and the schools do not offer this information to parents. They want to make the parents believe that they HAVE to get their kids vaccinated. Even some schools play dumb as if they have never heard of this waiver. But all you do is give it to the school nurse, and they are exempt.
Thanks be to God that my oldest two graduated last year, and I took my 8-year-old out of public school this year. I am sure one day they will remove the exemptions.
In Christ,
Traci
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Post by divash on Nov 29, 2007 12:43:26 GMT -5
I realize that most here won't agree with this, but I think that this is a wise decision -- though NOT because I think sixth-graders should be, or will, be having sex.
Around fifth or sixth grade, young bodies start to change into mature bodies. The minds within those bodies, however, are not prepared for sexual expression, and I deeply wish that they were at least mature enough to know that they weren't ready. However, when bodies start to look mature, OTHER PEOPLE may notice. Older people. People who don't necessarily respect the innocence of youth or the boundary of a young person saying "No, I don't want to do that."
If a young girl or boy is sexually assaulted, God forbid, I think they will feel horrible enough, without worrying that they've gotten a disease from it as well as the emotional and physical torture. Vaccinations can't stop every kind of disease, but if God forbid your child came home and said "This happened to me," wouldn't you feel better knowing that they were innoculated against at least some diseases? Specifically, against some diseases that could prevent them from being able to have children of their own someday?
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Post by benshelpmeet on Nov 29, 2007 13:33:04 GMT -5
The word Mandatory is the main problem I have with it.
Most christians on this sight watch and protect their children and home school. Most of us teach our children about their bodies being private and personal saved for their future spouse.
If...God forbid something ever did happen, a shot is not full proof, actually there is more risk than possible benefit.
If other parents out there feel their children would benefit from such a shot, then by all means they should have the option and personal choice to do so... But on the other hand for those of us who walk with God, educate, protect and watch our children, and teens like a hawk, we should as well have the personal choice to NOT have this shot given to our precious children.
We as citizens should have a choice, it should not be Mandatory.
Just my thoughts, ~ sister Darlene ~
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Post by mandy on Nov 29, 2007 14:46:42 GMT -5
I have a problem with the government telling me what to do with anything regarding my child. Or me for that matter. Basic laws preserving humanity is one thing, making personal health choices for people is something the government needs to stay out of...at least as far as I believe...my husband feels the same way.
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Post by Tammy on Nov 29, 2007 16:51:58 GMT -5
It is debatable whether or not vaccines are truly healthy for young bodies, to begin with. But aside from that, the mandatory vaccine program is just one more way to take the reins out of the hands of parents, placing them into the hands of the System. I, for one, am not willing to give over God's heritage - our children - to bureaucracy to raise! The issue of vaccines is a private health issue to be decided within the family.
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