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Post by glenda on May 26, 2008 17:48:16 GMT -5
I agree with you that divorce is not something that a christian should ever think of however sometimes it is not left up to one person.. What happens if someone else makes that choice for you. Then what??
god bless
glenda
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Post by allenehatherell12 on May 26, 2008 18:30:05 GMT -5
I know often that divorce can be taken out of the hands of the woman who does not want it....but it is never out of Gods hands and by saying no, I believe the whole process has to take a lot longer? and that means more time to pray for a change in heart and to display Christs love and forgiveness to the partner. I appreciate that this is hard...but then we are not told following Him will be easy and His loving arms will support us. Reconciliation must be the desire of our hearts, true prayer and desire for the lost which includes our husbands as they are always going to be our husbands.....even if we do take advantage of man made divorce laws. I think for the Christian wife to sign the divorce papers at the first offering is not trusting God to re build and bring a lost sheep home...it's not what God would have us do. As Christ did not give up on us, so I see we are not to give up on others no matter how badly they have behaved. We as sinners, or the lost, unsaved and backsliden may see that as their only earthly option but as Christs desciples, we need to stand firm and fully rely on His Grace Blessings, Sister Allene <><
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Post by mitchell on May 26, 2008 18:33:03 GMT -5
Glenda,
As I'm sure you know, scripture states that one should not divorce a spouse EXCEPT in the circumstance of adultery.
So, adultery IS solid, scriptural grounds for divorce. - What I never got straight was the basis for remarriage in that case. - I thought for a while back during that horrible time so long ago (over 30 yrs. ago) that I wasn't going to be given any choice in the matter either. Our surviving son was only 7 or 8 yrs. old and I was just devastated then as to how in the world I was going to be able to make a living for us. - I also knew that I might - and I do emphasize "might" because I was pretty disgusted by that time with the examples of "men" I saw at that time who shed marriages as casually as they broke up with steady girlfriends.
I realize there were preachers and pastors back then who also taught that it was okay to date and remarry after a divorce due to infidelity, but I just could not read that passage of scripture spoken by Christ Himself and agree with that. So, in addition to fears about my ability to provide for my son, I also had the fear of being alone the rest of my life due to my belief.
Sister Wanda
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Post by glenda on May 26, 2008 19:40:16 GMT -5
Being a lone is not what really barthers me.. I can handle the fact if God wnts me to be alone for the rest of my life then so be it. I however worry daily how i am going to meet my childrens needs and my own.. How am I going to keep our little homestead going. How am i going to pay our bills, how am i going to keep food in the house.. That is enough for me to worry about.. Honestly the part of being alone is the least of my worries.. My prayer daily is that this bill or that bill will not get turned off. That we will not have to go to another food bank this week. That i will find a pair of shoes for this child or that child and i will have the cash to buy them. Even simple things like underware become a problem for me.. It seems like the children are growing so much lately that I can not keep up with there clothing needs.. My youngest son has two pairs of underware that fit him now.. I oldest daughter has one bra that fits.. These things cost lots of money when you dont have it.. These are the things at this point that i worry about.. NOT being alone..
I will not divorce him even if he has and is still doing things that are NOT of God but like i have said before i will also not put the children in to places where they are put around these things. I have to protect them in a way were they do not loose there child hood..
Also you all need to understand he is NOT paying any of the bills here. We no longer have a phone due to them being turned off. He cancelled the contract.. I do have a cel phone from someone at church for emerg. use until i can get one of my own..
We are living off very little not to many people could live off what we are. We are looking at only about 270.00 a month income and that is to pay all my bills, buy our food, and the animal food.. Our income keeps going down due to people just can not afford to pay to have there house cleaned. I so understand that. But at the same time i still have to make a living..
These are the things that i worry about. These are the things that i pray about.
god bless all
glenda
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Post by Andrea on May 27, 2008 10:37:06 GMT -5
Oh Sis. Glenda, I'm so heart broken to read this thread. My heart just aches for you. I will keep you and your family in my prayers daily.
The thought crossed my mind as I was reading this about how strong of a woman you are, physically, emotionally, and spiritually to continue going on and looking to Lord through all of this. I know you have said that you've been at your breaking point more than once, but you know what to do when you get there.. Look to the Lord and draw from His strength. What a testimony that is to our Lord.
I also clean houses and I live in a very rural part of Southern Ohio and what you charge for all the work you do is very underpriced. It seems to me that the people in your area are taking advantage of you. You should really consider raising your prices to at least $40 if not $50 for all that you do or if you don't think you can, then lessen some of the work. That's a great deal of work for very little pay. I know you are thankful for those houses to clean and I'm thankful with you, but I think when someone inquires about you cleaning their house, try a new price and see what happens.
What are the ages of your children and clothes sizes? My daughter is getting ready to have a yard sale and we have alot of things. If we have anything that you can use, it's yours, Sister. We will be happy to send it to you. Please just let me know all your info on clothing and I'll see what we can do!!!
I'm praying for you, Sister.
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Post by glenda on May 27, 2008 16:43:36 GMT -5
Hello all. Today has been a very stressful day. I am so tired. I just am not sleeping well at night and well I am worn out. I feel so under attack right now by satan.. As far as what we charge for the houses we clean, you might be right i might be chargeing not enough. I have thought that.. but when i started it was what i thought was a good rate. NOw with only haveing four house to clean. I am starting to really worry.. If it was not for my oldest son mowing a yard of a neighor every other week we would not make it as well as we do..
My goal is to open up some kind of sewwing blog where i can sell my crafts like rugs, monthly pads, aprons, bonnets, hand bags, shopping bags, pic nic bags, eye glass cases and all the other things we make.. When i say we i mean the girls and I... I know that there are places we can sell these things but every where i go they want either a credit card or a checking account. I have neither.
I have to be able to put food on the table for me and the children. I have to be able to keep clothes and shoes for them. I have to be able to keep the bills paid.
I have had people ask me about trying to get food stamps. Well there is a problem with that. I have checked into it however because i am lucky enough to own my own home and two older cars. One does not run right now.. But anyway I have more asents than they allow. Plus honestly i just dont feel like that is teaching the children to trust in the lord.
Anyway just a few thoughts.
glenda
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Post by glenda on Jun 3, 2008 12:41:27 GMT -5
Hello all. Well things are going about the same here.. We are having a few issues today well they started yesturday.. Our lawn mower died... My yard looks so bad.. My oldest son mowed our neighbors yard and then went to mow our it backfired and then the motor or nothing will even move over.. he thinks it has died for good..... I am not sure what i am going to do.. I do not have the money to rebuild this lawn mower and yet i do not have the money to buy another one either... I looked online at walmart and a cheap push mower is 120.00 without taxes.. I do not have that kind of money.. Heavens right now all i have is 25.00... I have called and asked around to see if anyone has a push mower would could borrow. I have not heard back from one person but everyone else either has given there away aready or they just dont have one... Ok God I am at a blank here.. All i can do on this is look up to you and say it is in your hands.. There is nothing i can do about this one. god bless all glenda  |
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